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10 years 6 months ago - 10 years 6 months ago #115
by Nikita
Not sure that you will find it with subtitles, Snow, but if you want to practice, here's the full movie in French ...
Speaking about this movie that tells the true story of the soldier Lucien Bersot, here's the link to the French wikipedia that explain the details.
It's only in French but i guess it's easy enough to translate it.
Well, i don't know how is it in other countries who have similar cases in WW1 but all these soldiers, shot for the example, are still an injury in the collective memory in my country, that always have difficulties to put such things on the table in order to make an autocritic. As far as i know, the only official and significant step that was made about it was the speech of Lionel Jospin in Craonne in 1998, that i've spoke about one year ago . The answer of the French President Jacques Chirac, speaking about something "inconvenient", is revealing of the malaise that this dark page of history brings for the politic and military authorities in my country. Indeed, even if, in the case of Lucien Bersot here, the Court of Cassation, French supreme court, recognized the injustice, so opening the door for Lucien Bersot's rehabilitation, there is still no official and global stand recognizing the injustice which was made for all these soldiers shot for the example.
And, a century later, this shadow still glides, every year in November, above war memorials...
Edit: Here's a link that resume the evolution of this topic at the national level.
According to these informations, French President François Hollande should make a decision during his president's term.
Come on, Mister President, have courage, as all these soldiers had. If their names do not still have the right to be engraved on our monuments, their voices reach us from beyond the grave. It's time, Mister President, it's time...
This song, Mutineers of 1917 by Jacques Debronckart, was censored in France as soon as it was released in 1967. It's only in 1998 that it finally becomes possible to ear the original record. Can't believe it, hu, in the Liberty/Equality/Fraternity country...? But this is nevertheless the truth.
Mutineers of one thousand nine hundred seventeen
You are not in War memorials
You are not even any more in memories
As your companions of Black Sea:
You died and twice died
To your children we never repeat
How finishes their grandpa:
There are things about which we do not speak,
Mutineers of one thousand nine hundred seventeen
On your back, Joffre and Nivelle
Made a career in general staffs,
Their humor decided on your fate:
Today who remembers it ?
Instead of being bored in garrison,
Instead of stamping in the same rank,
It was the blessed time of the quarrel,
What a beautiful opportunity
You had made so many useless assaults,
Just to intensify the communiqué,
You felt so much deceived,
So much taken for imbecile,
That you wanted that that stops,
This slaughterhouse held by the homeland,
This national delicatessen,
Mutineers of one thousand nine hundred seventeen
Before the attack arrived coffins
And you cut your bread on their boards,
Just if the crepe in your sleeve
Announced your own mourning.
Unfortunately, France was not ready,
To rebel seemed enormous to her,
She was still drooling in front of the uniform,
Mutineers of one thousand nine hundred seventeen
History threw you in its sewers,
Hiding under the streams of her Marseillaise
That one half of the French army
Was burning to make as same as you.
One day, will you take out dungeon?
One day shall we see winning your cause?
I doubt about it, seeing how things are going
Mutineers of one thousand nine hundred seventeen,
Mutineers of one thousand nine hundred seventeen
Replied by Nikita on topic Movies & Series
Not sure that you will find it with subtitles, Snow, but if you want to practice, here's the full movie in French ...
Speaking about this movie that tells the true story of the soldier Lucien Bersot, here's the link to the French wikipedia that explain the details.
It's only in French but i guess it's easy enough to translate it.
Well, i don't know how is it in other countries who have similar cases in WW1 but all these soldiers, shot for the example, are still an injury in the collective memory in my country, that always have difficulties to put such things on the table in order to make an autocritic. As far as i know, the only official and significant step that was made about it was the speech of Lionel Jospin in Craonne in 1998, that i've spoke about one year ago . The answer of the French President Jacques Chirac, speaking about something "inconvenient", is revealing of the malaise that this dark page of history brings for the politic and military authorities in my country. Indeed, even if, in the case of Lucien Bersot here, the Court of Cassation, French supreme court, recognized the injustice, so opening the door for Lucien Bersot's rehabilitation, there is still no official and global stand recognizing the injustice which was made for all these soldiers shot for the example.
And, a century later, this shadow still glides, every year in November, above war memorials...
Edit: Here's a link that resume the evolution of this topic at the national level.
According to these informations, French President François Hollande should make a decision during his president's term.
Come on, Mister President, have courage, as all these soldiers had. If their names do not still have the right to be engraved on our monuments, their voices reach us from beyond the grave. It's time, Mister President, it's time...
This song, Mutineers of 1917 by Jacques Debronckart, was censored in France as soon as it was released in 1967. It's only in 1998 that it finally becomes possible to ear the original record. Can't believe it, hu, in the Liberty/Equality/Fraternity country...? But this is nevertheless the truth.
Mutineers of one thousand nine hundred seventeen
You are not in War memorials
You are not even any more in memories
As your companions of Black Sea:
You died and twice died
To your children we never repeat
How finishes their grandpa:
There are things about which we do not speak,
Mutineers of one thousand nine hundred seventeen
On your back, Joffre and Nivelle
Made a career in general staffs,
Their humor decided on your fate:
Today who remembers it ?
Instead of being bored in garrison,
Instead of stamping in the same rank,
It was the blessed time of the quarrel,
What a beautiful opportunity
You had made so many useless assaults,
Just to intensify the communiqué,
You felt so much deceived,
So much taken for imbecile,
That you wanted that that stops,
This slaughterhouse held by the homeland,
This national delicatessen,
Mutineers of one thousand nine hundred seventeen
Before the attack arrived coffins
And you cut your bread on their boards,
Just if the crepe in your sleeve
Announced your own mourning.
Unfortunately, France was not ready,
To rebel seemed enormous to her,
She was still drooling in front of the uniform,
Mutineers of one thousand nine hundred seventeen
History threw you in its sewers,
Hiding under the streams of her Marseillaise
That one half of the French army
Was burning to make as same as you.
One day, will you take out dungeon?
One day shall we see winning your cause?
I doubt about it, seeing how things are going
Mutineers of one thousand nine hundred seventeen,
Mutineers of one thousand nine hundred seventeen
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10 years 6 months ago #116
by snowman
"Straight and narrow is the path."
Replied by snowman on topic Movies & Series
I found the movie doubled in russian, but you can still hear the french language when
the russian speaker stops
the russian speaker stops
"Straight and narrow is the path."
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10 years 6 months ago - 10 years 6 months ago #117
by Serkses
My favourite film
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My favourite film
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10 years 6 months ago - 10 years 6 months ago #118
by Nikita
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10 years 6 months ago #119
by Hellcat
Pauzele lungi si dese,
Cheia marilor succese
Pauzele lungi si dese,
Cheia marilor succese
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10 years 5 months ago - 10 years 5 months ago #120
by Nikita
Replied by Nikita on topic Movies & Series
On my screen tonight...
In July, 1944, in front of the advance of the Allies on Paris, the nazis decide to evacuate the inestimable masterpieces of the Parisian museums to transfer them in Germany. A person in charge of museums warns the local Resistance to try to oppose to this plunder. Labiche, leader of a group of resistant railroad employees, does not agree very much with this affair and wonders why to risk the life of his men to save paintings. Nevertheless, in front of the exactions of the occupier and after the execution of an old railroad employee of his sector, he decides to implement everything so that the railroad convoy transporting paintings does not reach destination. The final scene of the movie will answer the question to know why he and his men did make it.
John Frankenheimer - The train - 1964
In July, 1944, in front of the advance of the Allies on Paris, the nazis decide to evacuate the inestimable masterpieces of the Parisian museums to transfer them in Germany. A person in charge of museums warns the local Resistance to try to oppose to this plunder. Labiche, leader of a group of resistant railroad employees, does not agree very much with this affair and wonders why to risk the life of his men to save paintings. Nevertheless, in front of the exactions of the occupier and after the execution of an old railroad employee of his sector, he decides to implement everything so that the railroad convoy transporting paintings does not reach destination. The final scene of the movie will answer the question to know why he and his men did make it.
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